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congratulations. not sure why you would want to do that. that is our "fox report" this sunday. i am jon scott. thank you for watching. bret: i'm bret baier in for chris wallaces, signs of economic recovery as labor day push. >> we are witnessing the fastest labor day recovery from any economic crisis in history. >> unemployment rate falls but the economic recovery from the ongoing pandemic is far from over. >> donald trump may be the only president in modern history to to leave office than when he took office. bret: then -- >> i'm excited to helping kenosha rebuild. we are all.
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>> donald trump sees a political lifeline. bret: donald trump and joe biden visit battlegrounds and messages on how to confront racial unrest. we are joined by biden campaign senior adviser symone sanders only on fox news sunday. plus the president bushes back on reports he privately disparaged american soldiers. >> it's a fake story written by a magazine that is probably not going to be around much longer. bret: we ask sunday panel how it could impact crucial vote. all right now on fox news sunday. ♪ ♪ bret: hello again from fox news in washington. it's now just 58 days, 8 weeks till election day and the first debate between president trump and joe biden just 3 weeks away now. coronavirus, racial unrest and the economy all key issues that
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could impact the vote. we begin with fox team coverage david spunt at the white house and jacqui heinrich in wilmington, delaware. let's start with the latest on the president's strategy as he faces reelection and the backlash over report he mocked american soldiers killed in action david. david: the president is fuming over the report claiming he disparaged american war vets and calling it a hoax and white house shifting to potential covid vaccine. >> it's a disgrace that somebody is allowed to write things like that. >> president trump aggressively listening report in the atlantic claiming he called american war debt losers and suckers. >> there's nobody that feels more strongly about our soldiers, our wounded warriors, our soldiers that died in war than i do. it's a hoax. >> in november 2018 the president spoke at serense cemetery outside of paris and
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did not visit aisne-marne and the decision, at the same time the president ordering scale-back of training and federal agencies and in a memo office of management and budget director russell says the u.s. has spent millions, quote, training government workers to believe divisive antiamerican propaganda. the white house instead looking to focus attention on 1.4 million jobs added in august and potential sustainable covid vaccine by late october early november. bret, this week the president will call to michigan and north carolina and on friday to pennsylvania on september 11th to memorialize flight 93 and also former vice president joe biden. bret: david spunt reporting from the north lawn. david, thanks.
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let's turn to jacqui heinrich why w.h.o. -- who is covering the biden campaign. reporter: after message of law and order former vice president joe biden is using reported comments by the president to undercut an essential theme of reelection campaign. >> who the heck does he think he is? >> joe biden is trying to get the message across. donald trump is not patriotic. >> president trump has demonstrated he has no sense of service, no loyalty to any other than himself and always caution not to lose my temper, this may be as close as i've come. >> biden's speech was expected to make headlines on the economy and jobs but following a report that president trump disparaged american troops, biden's most memorable remarks invoked military service of his own son,
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bo. biden runs on character, running mate is sticking to issues. senator kamala harris telling cnn state of the union she would not trust the president's word alone on a potential coronavirus vaccine following report his administration is rushing a rollout for political points. >> he's grasping for whatever he can get to pretend he's been a leader on the issue when he is not. reporter: campaign is picking stops in swing states resinating best on the issues. tomorrow labor day, biden heads to pennsylvania to talk jobs with union leaders. bret. bret: jacqui heinrich reporting from wilmington, delaware, thank you. treasury secretary steven mnuchin, mr. secretary, thanks, welcome back to fox news sunday. secretary: thanks, bret, great to be with you. bret: i want to coronavirus stimulus bill, next iteration stands and the negotiations as of right now. secretary: the president and i couldn't be more pleased with the way the economic plan has
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been working. we've injected $3 trillion in the economy and people thought we'd get 25% of unemployment, fortunately it never came close to that. we are down to 8.4 but the president and i believe we should do more stimulus, we have 7 and a half million jobs to get back and until we are back to where we were and we want to help small businesses, we want to help businesses that are particularly impacted by this and we will continue to work on proposed new legislation. bret: so what's the sticking point? does speaker pelosi want this, do you believe? >> secretary: i think you know in my discussions with the speaker where we are stuck is both on certain policy issues but more importantly on the top line. the speaker has refused to sit down and negotiate unless we agree to something like a 2 and a half trillion dollar deal in advance and bret as you know, we put $3 trillion into the economy when the economy was completely shut down, we've now reopened the economy. let's do a more targeted bill now if we need to do more in 30
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days we will continue to do more. let's not hold up the american workers and american businesses that need more support. bret: so on logistics will senate republicans move a so-called skinny bill. secretary: i would like to call it a more targeted bill not a skinny bill, yes, our expectation that we will move forward next week. bret: what exactly did you agree with the speaker on funding? secretary: the good news is speaker and i have agreed and we don't want to see government shutdown and we agreed that we will do a clean cr, we will do this separately from the cares act negotiations. we are having the appropriations staff the four corners meet and go through specific details on it but the good news we've agreed on a clean cr and i hope by tend to have -- the end of we can move forward. bret: cr continuing resolution, how long would it last, election day, some other timeline?
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secretary: we haven't agreed on specific details but my expectation it would be through the beginning of december. that's what we did this year. we had one through december and then needed another one into the beginning of next year and then we had final appropriations. so for now the most important thing is to make sure at the end to have month we don't shut down the government and we get something past the election. bret: mr. secretary, there have been vocal criticism from republicans ewe -- you negotiating and that you're giving the store and that if you're a democrat or republican. they don't know what they stand for on economics. treasury secretary steven mnuchin whose idea of compromises half of whatever mrs. pelosi wants and down payment to her agenda. your reaction to criticism and would it be better to get people in and try to hammer out a deal? secretary: i don't take the wall
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street editorial personally and sometimes they have good things to say and sometimes nonsense like this case. as i said before, i don't agree to anything that i don't review with the president. i speak to the president daily. our economic plan got us back to an extraordinary reopening of the economy, and the president wanted us to move forward with $3 trillion of spending, that's what we did. it's helped an enormous amount of american businesses and american workers and the answer is the president constantly has not only his economic team in the oval office but now mark meadows and i have been on the phone with mitch mcconnell and the senate republicans every single day. mark and i obviously speak to kevin mccarthy and the republicans in the house, but let me be clear, any legislation requires bipartisan support. we couldn't be more proud, the last two bills in the senate, 100 to 0 and 96 to 0 so i find that anything other than complete bipartisan support from both sides.
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bret: most experts looked at friday's latest job's report as positive as you mentioned, strong beating expectations, here is how the former vice president characterized it friday, though. >> the report reinforces the worst fears and painful truths. the economic inequities that began before the downturn have only worsen under this failed presidency. when the crisis started we all hoped for a few months of a shut down followed by rapid economic turnaround, no one thought they'd lose a job for good. bret: your reaction to that. secretary: well, the former vice president and the former president had one of the longers economic recessions that we've had. under president trump we had the lowest unemployment we've had. we had the best economy we've ever had and to no fault of any american businesses the president made the very difficult decision to shut down the entire u.s. economy because of this terrible covid disease. now, the good news is we've
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reopened it so, again, let me just say, people thought we'd have 30, 40 million people unemployed, we never did that because of the bipartisan support putting money into the economy. we are now down to 8.4% and the president is going to get it back down to 3 or 4% where it was before all of this in the beginning of next year when he's reelected. bret: 1.4 million jobs added in august. as you mentioned unemployment down to 8.4%. looking right now in the current trajectory, what do you think it'll be by election day? secretary: i think you will see it continuing to go down. we will have one more employment number this month that you're going to see. i think you're going to see another good number. you will see a phenomenal third quarter gdp and some people think it's going to be in the neighborhood of 30, 35%. whether it's 25%, 30, 35%, you're going to see this is the american economy rebounding. this is american business. people know when the government
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gets out to have way and we let american business work and with a little support from industries that are the hardest hit and that's why we want more legislation, this economy will fully recover and the president's job and my job is not done until everybody gets back to work. bret: the country is still in iran nuclear deal and the u.s. does not have standing in doing snapback sanctions, can and will the u.s. go alone on this? secretary: we will. we don't agree with the technical analysis at the un. i think our allies understand that selling arms to iran right now would be perhaps the worst decision that one can do. we are talking about the number 1 country in the middle east that has created terror around the middle east and the president is determined. one, they are never going to have a nuclear weapon and, two, we will not let them hurt our friends in the area. bret: you were not on that trip to france with the president, that's the focus of the atlantic
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piece that has received so much attention in the past few days. the administration pushed back on the record, but unnamed sources confirming parts of that story, at least parts of the account. have you ever heard the president use any of that language about veterans dead or alive ever being around him? secretary: bret, quite the contrary, this president supports the military in an unbelievable way. he's created more funding to rebuild the military, that was one of the things he campaigned on and he delivered. i've been with the president to arlington on memorial day, let me tell you i've listened to him there and watched him go visit sites there. i've been with him to the anniversary of world war ii, a very emotional experience, so, no, quite the contrary. i think this president has enormous respect for the military and for the generals and i've been at the tank at the pentagon with him. i've been at 9/11 at the pentagon with him.
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this president and -- respects the military. bret: do you think it's right for him calling for firing of reporter who confirmed parts of that story? secretary: i don't know anything about that. it's not something that i can comment on. bret: okay, well, he's tweeted about it and obviously he -- he says that he wants a reporter who happens to work here at fox fired. secretary: i've been busy on economic issues to be honest with you. i focus on a lot of things and as i said on the military i've always heard him to be a 150% supportive. i'm not aware of the issues that you're talking about. bret: last thing the cbo say it is national debt will reach the size of u.s. economy by the end of the year. i've interviewed you many times before and asked you about the growing debt, $27 trillion, the deficit and the debt concern,
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you've always said is, quote, manageable. after this pandemic if the president is reelected, would you see a second term some serious administration plan to address the debt? secretary: i would, bret. i think before we got into covid i thought the debt was very manageable. we were having an extraordinary growth, we were creating growth that would pay down the debt over time. unfortunately this china virus has cost us trillions of dollars and as i've said before, this is like a war, in a war you have to spend whatever you need to spend, so that's the reason why we spent $3 trillion. we would spend another $3 trillion, the speaker wants to spend unlimited amounts of money. i think the former vice president if he were elected would have socialist-economic policies that would take the debt out of control, but there's no question in a second term, once the economy is back, we will focus on this issue. bret: mr. secretary, we appreciate your time and happy labor day. secretary: thank you. bret: up next former vice
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bret: with labor day weekend comes the start of final countdown to election day. joining us now symone sanders, senior adviser for the biden campaign. thanks for being here. symone: thanks for having me, bret. bret: the secretary painted optimistic view of when economy will be on election day, is that a problem for your campaign? symone: bret, i did hear the treasury secretary a moment ago
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and i think we -- folks have to ask themselves at home, is this recovery working for you and economists are starting to call this recovery a k-shape recovery, mean it is going well and up for folks at the top, but for folks who are middle class or below, it's going down and so the question really is is this working for working families and the answer is no. look, one in six small businesses have shuttered their doors. if you work 30 -- i think more than 24 million people have noted that they are teleworking. if you work a job that has you working on a laptop and you can work at a desk, you're less at risk for covid. but i'm thinking, bret, an joe biden is thinking about the polks who are truck drivers and cashiers and auto workers, those are folks that are at higher risk of shortened hours and also exposed to covid. i just really think we have to think about the pain of working families across the country are feeling right now. bret: what are the prospects of
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a vaccine before election day? i asked about the safety of that, dr. anthony fauci said this. doctor: i think that we can have some confidence and have faith in what the fda is saying. they are saying very explicitly that they are going to be making the decision based on the scientific data and we hope that that's going to be the case. bret: is the biden campaign saying essentially if a vaccine comes out before election day it shouldn't be trusted or that it's pure politics? a couple of times the former vice president has weighed in on that. symone: bret, what we are saying first and foremost we want a vaccine but we want the vaccine to be safe and when a vaccine is eventually available we want it to be equitably distributed and the question really is how can americans and folks across the country trust the president to be able to effectively and equitably distribute a vaccine when he's had issues getting personal protective equipment to frontline workers all across this country. we all want a vaccine, bret, but
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we want it to be safe and we want it to get to folks across the country in every community. bret: if it comes out, the last week in october and the fda gives it the go-ahead, you're okay with that? symone: well, bret, again, we all want a vaccine. the question is how would it be distributed, would working families across the country -- i talked about the folks who work cashier, check counters, would they have the ability to get the vaccine? we know that african american and latino folks in the country are disproportionately affected by covid-19. will those neighborhoods and communities across the country have the opportunity to receive the vaccine? that is the question and if we look at just frankly how this white house and how the administration has handled the mitigation or the lack thereof of covid-19 has handled, you know, distribute personal protective equipment, there have been real issues. we would hope if a vaccine is
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available is safe and can the trump administration distribute equitably. bret: will joe biden get the vaccine if it's available? symone: well, look, bret, first and foremost, folks have asked and we've had conversations about testing and as folks know now vice president biden and senator harris are regularly tested as campaign staff. first and foremost at the top in mind of vice president biden is the american people getting what they need. the white house has testing, bret, folks are tested very regularly coming in and out of the white house, anyone who is around the president but that testing, that level of testing is not available to folks across the country. if a vaccine were to become available, again, it's about working families benefit, would they be able to receive the vaccine. bret: many journalists detected the shift in the former vice president's answer about shutting down the economy. take a listen. >> get off twitter and start
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talking to the congressional leaders in both parties. invite them to the oval office. the oval office. negotiate a deal, a deal for somebody other than yourself. >> so if the scientists say shut it down? >> i would listen to the scientists. there's going to be no need in my view to be able to shut down the whole economy. i got asked by david if i was asked to shut everything down, i took that out as generic question, am i going to follow the science. bret: would he shut it down or not? symone: i think the president was clear in the last clip, he noted that he was asked by david and he took very generic, if it was recommended by the scientists that that is what needed to happen to keep americans safe, would he do it and the answer was question, but look, the reality is this that vice president wants folks to be able to go to work and folks to be able to get the vaccine, we want working families to, you
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know, we want folks to be able to send their children to school safely and currently in donald trump's america is not happening. i think in the beginning of the clip what you heard vice president biden urging president trump to call the democratic leaders in the united states congress and the senate and in the house, bring them to the white house, let's negotiate a deal and get this done for the american people. bret: but you know it goes the other way too, he's the defacto head of the democratic party. why doesn't joe biden call nancy pelosi and say let's get a deal done? symone: i believe that, bret, speaker pelosi passed a bill more than 115 days ago. bret: there's a big difference, a gap as far as negotiations. symone: i don't think i read anywhere where speaker pelosi or leader schumer have noted that they are unwilling to work with the president. i think even you have noted that the president has to come to the table and negotiate and so what vice president biden is urging and i think what the american people want is a deal. you know, donald trump talks about being business leader that can cut great deals, make a deal
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with congress, come on, do your job. this is part of the job. bret: let's talk about the protests and violence often turning to violence and rooting. this week the former vice president condemned riots and looting, but yet to condemn antifa, a group that is behind a lot of the violence specifically why? symone: bret, the vice president has been very clear. he condemns all forms of violence and frankly what you heard him say in the speech that he gave on monday of last week was it doesn't matter what political party you belong to, it doesn't matter what your political beliefs are, violence is wrong. in this moment he is calling for calm and he has also noted throughout the week, bret, that he, you know, asked the president to join him in condemning violence regardless of who is causing it. joe biden is very clear. i believe it's donald trump who is not. bret: do the dozen plus campaign staffers who donated to the minnesota freedom fund have any
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regrets about that now at least one person bailed out has been rearrested on a serious charge? symone: bret, it was and has not been our campaign position of bailing anyone out. so i'm unsure about specifically what you're speaking to. bret: kamala harris tweeted about it, if you're able to chip in minnesota freedom fund to post bail for those protest tong ground in minnesota, please do. symone: bret, you asked a good question, do we condemn the violence and the answer is yes. protests, we have to make clear distinction between protests and violence. burning, looting communities is not protesting, that's violence and we condemn that in all forms. but protesting peacefully is necessary, it's american and folks should be raising their voices in this moment. bret: why do you think all of these police organizations have endorsed president trump? symone: you know, i'm unsure, bret, i'm not inside the negotiations inside various police organizations but what i
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can tell you 132 law enforcement officers from across the country in the high-ranking position, former folks endorsed vice president biden on friday and i can also tell you that that when you asked the american people looking at these polls who do voters trust to keep them safe in this country overwhelmingly they say joe biden and so i think, you know, this law and order campaign, if you will, that president trump and his campaign are trying to gen up and run i don't think is working. the question is are you safe in donald trump's america, are you safe from covid, are you safe for violence and the answer is no. bret: okay. here is new york governor andrew cuomo this week. governor: changes residence to go to florida. he can't come back to new york. he can't. he's going to walk down the street of new york? forget bodyguards, he better have an army if he thinks he's going to walk down the street in new york. bret: he's talking about
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speaking out against violence, was that appropriate or helpful to your campaign? symone: well, bret, governor cuomo doesn't work for the biden campaign. i'm not sure in what context he was speaking but i can tell you -- bret: about donald trump. symone: they believe that we should live in a country where the president does not incite violence or fan the flames of hate in this country, pour gasoline on intense situations. they believe that we need leadership who is ready to stand up for all of the folks, not just people who voted for the president and that is the kind of leader that joe biden will be, a president for all americans. bret: they would condemn the language from governor cuomo? symone: i don't know what context and i don't speak for governor cuomo and i speak for joe biden and senator harris. bret: we appreciate your time. happy labor day. up next sunday group with their take on the president and joe biden's travels to kenosha, wisconsin and the state of the wisconsin and the state of the campaign a lot of folks ask me why their dishwasher
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>> i'm committed to helping reon or abouta rebuild, it's all about giving them additional support. these are great people. >> the underlying racism is
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institutionalized and still exists in the united states. bret: joe biden and president trump with contrasting messages this week in kenosha, wisconsin as protests continue after police shooting of jacob blake, ben domenech and fox news contributor jessica tarlov and tom bevan. let's set the table for the race as real clear politics of polls, rcp, biden up 7 in the average of recent polls. if you look at key battleground states, biden with an advantage, some of those closing slightly in recent days. back to the panel, tom, when you look at the numbers and state of the race, where do you see it? tom: as you mentioned there's been tightening in battleground states, for example, florida is key state. there's been tightening in places like pennsylvania.
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we've had polls showing tightening. in other states not as much. but if you look overall, you take average of biden's lead in top 6 battleground states in this election it is at 3.0%. that's exactly where hillary clinton's lead was 4 years ago and despite the national polls showing biden with bigger lead than hillary clinton had at this point in time it's still very competitive. bret: we are getting, jessica to see kamala harris in wisconsin, same day mike pence is there, clearly the biden campaign says it's necessary to get out of wilmington, delaware. jessica: there were a few polls out of wisconsin that independent voters were paying more attention to law and order or crime issue and people were really pushing the vice president to show up in kenosha which he did and that was jacob blake's family and spoke with
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mr. blake in hospital bed. it's clear biden campaign is reading tealeaves and know where they need to go and working very hard to protect electoral votes with fox news poll in arizona, that's looking better than anyone expected and they need to make sure that wisconsin and michigan go their way this time around versus what happened to hillary clinton. bret: ben, i mentioned with symone, i asked why police organizations are seemingly endorsing president trump and you heard her answer but there's more than a dozen law enforcement organizations including the fraternal order of police, 355,000 members. national association of police organizations, the international union of police associations, clearly they are going one way and some of them endorsed the
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obama-biden ticket in 2008. >> this is the first time that you don't see any major cop backing for joe biden and historically he has had a lot of it in past runs. to jessica's point the campaign is out on the trail than expected, because they saw some of the law and order messages having significant impacts in the states. when you look at the polls generally, it's kind of an interesting situation, though, because i wouldn't say that the biden campaign is acting like they have the lead that these national polls indicate that they do. they are behaving as if it's much closer as if it is to tom's point, a couple of points separating him from the president and i think that there's a real concern on the part of democrats that, you know, this race was last last -- time in the last 60 days after what happened with 9/11 ceremonies with hillary clinton and the debates went well for then candidate trump and there's a lot of concern.
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bret: first debate 3 weeks away. here is the president and dr. fauci on vaccines. >> it'll be delivered before in my opinion before the end to have year but it really might even be delivered before the end of october. not because of the election. we want to save people. >> most project that would be november, december, by the end to have year. could this be earlier, sure. it is conceivable that you can have it by october, though, i don't think that that's likely. bret: tom, earlier i played the sound bite that dr. fauci said you have to trust the fda will not put something out that's not safe but the biden campaign in multiple suggesting that if it comes out before election day it's pure politics? tom: right, i think that's a dangerous move to politicize the vaccine. everyone wants the vaccine as soon as possible so they can return to normal lives. i thought symone made
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interesting angle where he said, look, we are worried this isn't going to be equitable distributed. coronavirus has impacted african americans, latinos, so they are going to actually i think based on what you said, not politicize the vaccine and safety of the vaccine but actually politicize handling of distribution of the vaccines in communities of color. bret: looks like they are preparing and the president to talk about it. jess yes, jessica: right. it's kind of where he's put all his eggs into the basket, well, after saying that it would go away and now we would have a vaccine and i do think that symone's answer was nuance and i
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know a lot of people who feel that way especially in light of cdc pushing plasma and walking that back and the fact that the president has boosted hydroxychloroquine on tv a number of times where dr. fauci has had to contradict him to ensure that people are not just taking it for sports. i personally if the fda approves it will be taking the vaccine and if i can get my hands on it, will return and it really underpins. bret: when you rank things, ben, coronavirus where we are, november third, the economy where it is and you heard what the treasury secretary said about that and law and order and protests and where that stands, how do you see which issue is taking most prominence? >> i think the virus is prominence and a decision-factor
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when they come in terms of looking at the different priorities of issues but i do think the economic questions that will become more important as we get loser to election day because a lot of this has to do with who people have confidence in to lead us out of the situation. the president has been hammering away on the idea as you heard from secretary mnuchin that the obama-biden years were stagnant and wages didn't really grow and i think he will lean into that strength as we get closer to election day and try to establish a message that only he can take us back perhaps to where we were before. bret: 58 days from now and we should point out a lot of states including north carolina already voting, the ballots are going out the door. thanks, panel. when we come back president trump denying a report saying he disparaged veterans even when campaign sought support from members of the
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>> it was a terrible thing that somebody could say the kind of things especially to me because i've done more for the military than almost anybody else. >> if these statements are true, the president should humbly apologize to every gold star mother and father and every blue star family. bret: president trump slamming a report he denigrated american soldiers calling them losers and suckers, big pushback publicly on that. rival joe biden seizing on the claims. we are back with the panel. tom, interesting couple of days on this story. the on the record pushback from the white house vigorous but unnamed sources confirming parts of that account. it seems like -- where does this story go? tom: well, i don't know.
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i mean, to me the center of this story is all about the way that the media has gone wild with the use of unnamed sources and anonymous sources, right, we have seen that happened. the rule in journalism was if you don't go on the record, it doesn't make the paper. we've gotten away from that and particularly with donald trump, the use of anonymous has -- has really by factions within the government that are really trying to hurt him politically and we need to get back to that. if you have something to say derogatory about the president or you have a story about the president, go on the record. you've got the four unnamed sources and on the other side a dozen people from the administration who are now on the record saying, look, i was with him, i was in the room and didn't happen and i think it speaks to the way the journalists and media, their integrity undermined by the use of unnamed sources. bret: including on this one, jennifer griffin's reporting. then i should also note your
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late father-in-law john mccain, a part of this reporting and -- and the alleged remarks made by the president. your thoughts on how the story plays? >> well, first if you indulge. we have as a family have gone through a lot of tough years with the reporting about various things that president trump has said about my late father-in-law. it's always hurtful. it's never fun, but i would say that this is also beef that lasted for several yeahs 2 years that -- years, 2 years since the senator's passing. they are trying to get the president to go back and continuing the point after the senator passed and it's reached a point where it's breaking news. they had beef. this is not a new story for us. on the other hand, on the story itself, i have to say the
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atlantic has not really covered self and glory, they smeared great kavanaugh and most recent carol who lost job at l magazine given outrageous allegations against the president and they had to retrack and correct a major piece recently thanks to our own report target federalist about police shooting. i do believe that the first paragraph in this piece is false. there's a paper trail that there was, in fact, weather-related reason for this delay and i believe john bolton that if it was true it would have been an entire chapter in his book. he has no reason to lie. that doesn't mean that the president say terrible things of people who he should have respect and acknowledgment of the sacrifice that is they've made for our country particularly those who have served in harm's way. bret: former national security adviser john bolton wrote a very negative book, if you're looking from president trump's point of view of his time serving there.
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here he is talking about this incident. john: i didn't hear either of those comments or anything resembling them. i was there at the point in time that morning when it was decided that he would not go to -- on aisne-marne cemetery, he decided not to do it because of john kelly's recommendation, it was entirely weather related decision. bret: jessica, i understand the biden campaign jumping on this and passion about talking about it with the caveat if true when he delivered those remarks. what i don't understand campaign surrogates who are out going after donald trump for his deferment to vietnam war because of bone spurs. that seems interesting because joe biden had deferments to to avoid the draft. in fact, he had 5 of them because of diagnosis of asthma.
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jessica: joe biden speaks about this issue passionately not only because he cares about our troops and he famously carries around a card that's updated on a daily basis of how many lives we lost of servicemen and women abroad but the father of someone who fought honorably for the united states, bo biden who passed away a few years ago, i don't really want to talk about bone spurs versus asthma, i don't think that's the issue. i think there's two issues at play. one to tom's point about sources, deep throat was anonymous source, did not reveal who it was for decades. i don't think anyone on the panel or the world would deny the fact that that account mattered and it certainly carried weight and as jennifer griffin defended her own reporting with neil cavuto, her sources are very real and not anonymous to any of the reporters and she even said i'm sure they're not anonymous to the president himself. this isn't an account that came out of a left-wing rack, the
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atlantic's reporting has been confirmed by u.s., washington post, "the new york times", by the associated press, all by very good reporters at the outlets as well, so to say that -- bret: we should have a caveat. there are elements of that reporting that jennifer confirmed from sources, but as ben pointed out, there are other elements that appear to be pretty -- push back pretty hard. jessica: absolutely. john bolton saying the decision was because of weather, that's fine. he said he didn't spend the entire day with him and the president said, oh, i called melania to tell her how upset i was about this. guess what melania was with him in paris and went to dinner with the macrons. it could have been john kelly, he was super fatigue and batted. i don't think john kelly has ever been batted at anything or super fatigue. i think john kelly would probably come out and say he didn't say this thing at my son's grave if that were the
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case. pushing that -- >> bret: he can confirm, he's no longer inside the administration. jessica: i welcome him to do either of those things. the military times poll that show that biden is getting more support among active members is why they are running scare. bret: a lot of things that were going to move the needle ahead of the 2016 election, a lot of things including all kinds of things that were said let alone the access hollywood. people thought that the campaign was cratering a number of different times. where are we on this, does this not fall into some of that category? >> i think it absolutely does. if you're a supporter of president trump you think it's a hit job. they are not going to believer it and if you're a biden supporter, you're going to say, of course, he said it, it's absolutely true.
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what is the small folks, the middle, how do they react in the story, particularly the folks sitting in the states that are going to matter? i don't think we know but this does fall into the category, the bucket of things and in the final analysis it's not going to move the needle and not going to matter on election day. bret: quickly, ben, we are getting ready for michael cohen book. ben: i think people need to brace themselves. it's beginning of series of anonymously sourced piece that is will go after the president in all manner of ways and you will see a lot more before election day. bret: panel, thank you very much, up next power player of the week, legend who gave thanks to balcony to those in the front lines of the ♪ water? why?! ahhhh! incoming! ahhhahh! i'm saved!
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bret: when the coronavirus hit new york residents began to open their windows to salute healthcare workers fighting to save lives. as we first told you in april a broadway legend let his voice to that attribute. what a voice it is.
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here is chris wallace with her power player of the week. >> i would go to the window as everybody does here in new york city and cheer on all the essential workers, the first responders, the healthcare workers every night and one night i started spontaneously singing the impossible dream ♪ ♪. chris: his signature baritone to his window each night to spread a message of hope ♪ ♪. chris: it is his ballot. >> the song of doing the impossible, it's a song about trying, trying . . . the lyrics to the song could not be more perfect to dream the possible fight and to bear with unbearable sorrow to run where the brave dare not go.
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♪. chris: a trademark for this two-time tony winner, once dubbed the last leading man ♪ ♪. chris: now instead of singing in a broadway theater, he sings from his apartment window on broadway. still drawn a crowd. >> allah down sometimes and there is a fire engine or an ambulance or police car and icing for them. >> i been laying low for the last number of days because i feel my body fighting something unusual. chris: in early may he tested positive for the coronavirus. >> i got hit with a fever and bodyaches and chills in a very high fever. chris: there was a point when he could not sing. >> yes without coughing, you do not know any of these things and will i be able to sing again if something happens, will he get into my vocal cords.
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now i have a few more answers than questions but there is a whole lot of questions. chris: now recovered he wonders when his city will come back. chris: do you wary about when broadway will open again and what people will feel safe coming to new york and sitting in a theater with strangers. >> yes i am very worried about that, the theater, movie theaters are going to be one of the last sectors to get to any normalcy because we rely on people showing up, sitting next other people and theater seats ♪ ♪. chris: when he sings the impossible dream he changes the lyrics. ♪ >> the quest is to get through this and get through this together, the quest is to collaborate. >> everybody sing with me ♪ ♪
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♪ thank you and thank you to the workers of new york. bret: one-da they close to gettd to all the spring he has been named a presidential moderator as you recall 2016 chris became the first fox news anchor to moderate a debate the final debate between candidates donald trump and hillary clinton. this time around chris will moderate the first debate between president trump and joe biden, that is just three weeks from now september 29. it will be held in cleveland. i guarantee you you do not want to miss this. that is it for today, have a great week and a great labor day. i will see you tomorrow for a special report. chris will see you next "fox news sunday".
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♪ : . : : ♪ ♪ ♪ hello america i'm mark levin. this is life, liberty and levin. we have a great guest attorney general bill barr. how are you. >> good. good to be here. >> here's what i promise. we will have a discussion and when i ask you a question you'll have time to answer because i won't reclaim my time. we have a lot to cover but i